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Comey fired

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Atl Guy, May 9, 2017.

  1. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

    Why do i get the feeling that if JC wasn't handed a pink slip, we never would of heard of the memos...
  2. Greeneyedude

    Greeneyedude Senior Member

    Chalk it up to human nature lol
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  3. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

    Someone would have dug it up, even if they had to kill to get it. Ask the family of Seth Rich.
    LINK likes this.
  4. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

  5. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

    Sounds like there may be a conflict, or an appearance of one.

    Mueller's former law firm, WilmerHale, represents Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who met with a Russian bank executive in December, and the president's former campaign manager Paul Manafort, who is a subject of a federal investigation.
  6. Greeneyedude

    Greeneyedude Senior Member

    " former" is the key word there but I get your point
  7. wamulover

    wamulover Senior Member , Order of Original Thinkers

    Ha. The perfect talking point for either side depending on how this goes. SMH
  8. seaver15

    seaver15 Senior Member

    I guess it hasn't occurred to anyone that the memos are part of the investigation, which isn't finished.

    And it's typical that the Clown College White House is trying to use that ethics provision for the exact opposite purpose for which it was intended; in any case the Justice Dept. can waive the conflict.
  9. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    Generally speaking, Legal ethics pertaining to conflicts of clients and attorneys really pertain to attorneys actually working for a client. Attorneys will often litigate against former clients, provided if it is a different matter and the new clients knows of the prior representation. Granted, that's different and a bit similar from DoJ rules.

    That said, the way Big Law operates, there are various different departments within a firm. The attorneys in one department may have no idea of the attorneys in another department, let alone their clients.

    It's actually normal. It only sounds like a big deal only to the type of people who think a good businessman loses money in a casino in a booming casino market.
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  10. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

  11. sirdosser

    sirdosser Senior Member

    It's not naïveté, its arrogance. The most popular flavor on the beltway, if you're a lifer.
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  12. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

  13. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

    I think I may have thrown this idea out before but don't recall. First my knees go then my memory.

    If the Russians are involved, maybe they're just playing with Trump, not to curry favor with him or use him as a puppet. Maybe the eventual goal is to stir the pot of shit which is the US political system. It's probably very easy to play to Trump's ego and not very difficult to trash Clinton as a candidate. Not a stretch from there to bring down the whole house of cards of the corrupt capitalists and embarrass the U.S. in front of the world.

    Then again, there may be no Russian involvement and the above is a result of lack of sleep and an active imagination.
    Last edited: May 20, 2017 at 3:06 AM
  14. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

  15. NJShoreGuy51

    NJShoreGuy51 Senior Member

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  16. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

    "Banana Psychology

    You start with a cage containing four monkeys, and inside the cage you hang a banana on a string, and then you place a set of stairs under the banana.

    Before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.

    You then spray ALL the monkeys with cold water.

    After a while, another monkey makes an attempt. As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray ALL the monkeys with cold water.

    Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

    Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new monkey. The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, ALL of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

    Next, remove another of the original four monkeys, replacing it with a new monkey. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment - with enthusiasm - because he is now part of the "team."

    Then, replace a third original monkey with a new monkey, followed by the fourth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.

    Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs.

    Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. Having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water.

    Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the Banana.

    Why, you ask? Because in their minds, that is the way it has always been!

    This is how today's House and Senate operates, and this Is why from time to time, ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME!

    DISCLAIMER: This is meant as no disrespect to monkeys.***"

    Last edited: May 20, 2017 at 6:05 PM
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  17. wamulover

    wamulover Senior Member , Order of Original Thinkers

    It's funny you're so dismissive of the conflict of interest. I personally think it's all bullshit, too. But you're thinking the Trump lovers will cry foul about it if things don't work out for Trumpy. I guarantee the BPTR crew will be up in arms - led by Pelosi/Watters in the real world and by the chairman/identity thief here in Goreland.

    We can always go double or nothing on our bet. You know, so after you piss in my scotch cause I'm a Yankees fan, I can enjoy a clean drink before I call my favorite provider. ;)
  18. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    It's not dismissiveness. I have a good handle how the real world works.

    A lot of people yell "conflicts" and "money in politics" and I shrug because it just doesn't work that way.

    There's an entire country in the grip of being stupid because they think it makes them smart.
  19. wamulover

    wamulover Senior Member , Order of Original Thinkers

    So for the sake of clarity: you will be satisfied if the investigation finds Trump and co. guilty of whatever (obviously). You also will be satisfied if the investigation finds Trump and co. not guilty of collusion or other dastardly deeds?

    For the record, the latest budget was a dastardly deed, but I don't think Special Counsel will be investigating that.
  20. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    There are a lot of civil servants and career government attorneys that do their jobs well, professionally, and in apolitical fashion.

    Don't get me wrong, there are hacks everywhere, but the vast majority are decent pros.

    They'll go where the facts take them and do it thoroughly. And I'll trust their conclusions.

    Gotta remember, Shit Midas may have other issues than out and out collusion. He could have avoided direct collusion, but money and business deals could get him in hot water.

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