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Christie for Prez

Discussion in 'Politics' started by clave665, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. clave665

    clave665 Senior Member, Moderator, Official Eunuch of BGFE Staff Member

    This is the first Thread I've ever started in any Political Forum, lol. But does that guy have even the SLIGHTEST chance of even getting the nomination, let alone getting elected? This is purely my opinion, of course, but to me he's not much more than a coarse, cigar-chompin', smoke-filled back room wheeler and dealer who'd be a total joke on a national stage.

    And could you imagine him going toe-to-toe with Putin or the Iranians? Chopped liver.
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  2. seaver15

    seaver15 Senior Member


    Donut's chance at a cop convention?

    If pigs could fly?

    Like a fart in a wind-tunnel?

    [I reserve the right to add more........]
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  3. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    The man hasn't done shit for this state as Governor. I'll credit him with some positive changes and policies at the US Attorney's Office during his time there, but in terms of his service as Governor, I see zero accomplishments. A relatively sizeable employer in my town just banged up. They were there since the end of World War 2. What's that, 70 years now???? Didn't outlast The Fatman.

    They went to, and this is Christie's signal accomplishment: "Moved To Pennsylvania."
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  4. bear56

    bear56 Contributing Member

    Christie's time has come and gone. America is tired of the schtick and it does not go over well in Des Moines. He came out as a fresh honest voice, but he's done little positive IMHO. NJ economy, etc. is still lagging behind most. He does not have much to run on and we all know he'll say something stupid or flip out on someone on the campaign trail or with our allies. I say "toast".
  5. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    For those interested, his State of the State speech is today at 2:00 PM.

    For the remainder of the week, and this is from his publicly released schedule: Out of the State.
  6. seaver15

    seaver15 Senior Member


  7. The only Republican I'm interested in is Rand Paul because he "says" he wants to end the war on drugs. Christie doesn't interest me.
  8. localh0spital

    localh0spital Contributing Member

    His odds are as bad as the odds of the Cowboys winning the SB this year.
  9. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Never shy about a good quote.

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  10. Franken996

    Franken996 Senior Member

    Although I'm just a 'libtard piece of eurotrash' who tends to mainly vote for the Dems..I feel compelled to play devils advocate for Christie;

    I have a modest degree of admiration for the guy..sure he's not perfect & we can throw out jobs stats & Bridgegate /Cowboys crappola etc but here's a thing-
    the man gets things done- he capped the growth in NJs' property taxes, was a true leader in response to Sandy & he's delivered balanced budgets annually.
    Sure he can be a political weasel on topics when looking to a GOP nomination for 2016 e.g. pregnant pigs/ same sex marriage..(although to be fair re latter he did sign the bill outlawing 'gay conversion' therapy).. but every candidate both DEm & Rep plays to that peanut gallery.
    Also for a Republican his immigration stance is sane & pragmatic.

    If he was the selected GOP presidential candidate, depending on who runs for the Dems I'd consider voting for him. I'm pretty sure he could hold his own just fine going up against Putin or the usual cast of characters..although I'd be a lil worried he'd flip out & nuke the Middle East!!

    This may sound shallow (& I personally couldn't care less) ..but he'll have to shed at least 30 pounds if he's to have a chance...voters want a wo(man) who 'looks' like a success to lead the nation.

    ps I suspect all this hot air about Romney running again is a) BS, b) deliberately being fomented by the GOP to divert excess attention away from CC & Jeb Bush.
  11. js52

    js52 Member

    He has virtually no chance at the presidency. His record in NJ is awful, and he is not conservative enough for the Republican primaries. I think he could be a big star as a Fox/conservative pundit.
  12. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    The man is premier at pissing on you and telling you it is only rain. He touts his biggest achievement as the 2 percent property tax cap. Mine still average 5-6 percent a year. There are fucking exceptions to the cap. I call bullshit but everybody in Iowa loves their big daddy.
  13. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

    I really don't have much respect for him,but what counts is that the negative resonates with the voters,especially if the negatives affects their wallets.Some may argue that the public has a short memory,which is why many become re elected,go figure.
  14. Gr8Fun1

    Gr8Fun1 Senior Member

    No chance of geting nomination for the GOP, as Bush, Romney etc. will be running. Also, his record in NJ is weak and getting worse. And BridgeGate was/is a disaster for him.....
  15. Bondman

    Bondman Member

    Why would the GOP divert attention away from Jeb Bush if he is the only current potential candidate that could beat Hillary. Perhaps you could expand a bit on the logic of that strategy
  16. Franken996

    Franken996 Senior Member

    This is my pet theory & perhaps I'm talking out my ass but you asked lol;
    It's precisely because Jeb Bush is (likely) the GOP candidate best able to face down Hillary Clinton.
    While they say no publicity is bad publicity, in political campaigns this is much more nuanced- as seen with Christie & why he's probably unlikely to ultimately get the nomination.
    The more candidates there are upfront, the more diluted individual coverage/risk of bloopers is at outset. Jeb Bush is an intelligent accomplished person but his views have 'evolved' to such an extent on everything from immigration & same sax marriage to the environment that his nomination may be a hard sell to many of the core GOP base.
    If the GOP genuinely thinks JB is their best chance at success, it's useful to have Romney ( & Christie) drawing much of the 'negative' attention away from him until later in the game.

    Romney got defeated by such a margin last time that the GOP 'allowing' him to even risk a repeat seems implausible. Plus the 'leaked' rumors from Mitt's camp strike me as red herrings, viz: he's talking about focusing on:
    • Poverty - from the man who called 47% of Americans moochers?
    • Foreign affairs -for such a bright guy he came across like one of the three stooges when abroad last time with more foot in mouth gaffes than yogi berra..& he has no real experience in this arena.
    • Long-term Economic Stability- One of his core arguments for 2012 run ie.. a serious Business executive who could spearhead a major Economic overhaul — would imho be so much harder to make with a greatly improved economy.
    It's one thing trying to turn perceived weaknesses into strengths…but this strikes me as absurd as Jimmy Carter declaring he'd come out of retirement & run on a 'Lets Bomb Iraq' platform!

    I'd posit that Mitt will keep rattling the saber until around the time that JB formally declares…and then gracefully withdraw.
  17. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    The whole Mitt thing is rather confounding. He seems to be a man who still thinks he won in 2012 and this would simply be his second term re-election.

    Then again, Nixon lost a national election in 1960, came back and won 8 year later, so I guess anything is possible.

    Having said that, I personally believe the American public as a whole will greatly benefit if the national election contest has neither a Bush nor a Clinton as the choices.
  18. Bondman

    Bondman Member

    Ok..I understand your logic except that I think establishing his positions on immigration are not flubs IMO they are net positives and with his Last name he can run from the left without being accused of being a pinko commie bastard..lol...and I agree with your reasoning 1000% about Mitt, when he finds that his only money support lies within his own pockets he will start thinking about better things to do will his money..lol...Christie in the #2 slot would help the ticket more than Ryan or that bimbo Palin..hell he would carry NJ For Bushy just to get his morbidly obese derrière the fuck out of JOISEY!
  19. Reagan ran in 1976 for the nomination against Gerald Ford and lost. Ford lost to Carter. Reagan got the nomination in 1980 and won two landslides. Bush Sr. (his VP) attempted to get the nomination however after Reagan's famous line "I'm paying for this microphone Mr. Green." turned the tides in Reagan's favor and Bush became the VP and eventually a one term President.

    I also heard on the radio that Jeb was originally the Bush in line to run in 2000 but it was cited that his 1994 Florida loss that got brother George (who won in Texas in 1994) the idea for that.
  20. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Would this be Mitt's third crack at the Big Enchilada? I think he was in the primaries in 2008 but lost to McCain. Have to check....

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