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Does religious beliefs give one the right...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by LINK, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

    to impose their beliefs onto others. If an employee is not able to deal with certain products due to their religion should the business accommodate the employee.

    Should a cab driver refuse service to an individual if the individual doesn't share the same religious belief.

    I recently read that inmates sued due to the type of food served. They are convicted criminals & are not entitled to preferential treatment.

    For some reason some feel they have the right to force their beliefs onto others. This is not what freedom of religion means.

  2. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    When it comes to prostitution, we've been living under Christian Sharia law for 200 years in this country.

    They want us to look the other way when it comes to imposing Christian beliefs on others.
  3. tryan125a

    tryan125a Retired

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  4. Maxiboy

    Maxiboy Contributing Member

    Fuck them and their religious bullshit...........with all due respect.;)
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  5. superdogg69

    superdogg69 Senior Member

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  6. sirdosser

    sirdosser Senior Member

    The Geneva provides for POWs to be granted the right to practice or observe their religion. That, to my knowledge, is why dog tags list servicemen and women's religion.
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    MAXIMUS Contributing Member

    LOL - someone should remind Saint Donald to take a look at the Geneva convention - it should be out the window and down the crapper in less then 3 tweets ;)

    all this "civilized" bull shit goes out the window faster than you can say Liberals are assholes when it is a matter "total war" - Did the US worry about any conventions when they fire bombed Tokio and fried 100,000 civilians or when they dropped the two Nukes ? (this was not even a matter of existential threat to the US )

    Besides, once you entertain and make exceptions for one persons mental illness then technically you would have to honor every ones mental illness
  8. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Well, General Lemay was the planner of the Tokyo bombing. He knew what the incendiaries would do to 100,000 civilians.

    He also said that if the US had lost the war, he fully expected to be tried for war crimes.
  9. sirdosser

    sirdosser Senior Member

    There are few things as insipid as a civilian telling a veteran how to do war. When your "total war" arrives I hope you have plenty of diapers for all the times you'll be shitting yourself.
  10. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo


    MAXIMUS Contributing Member

    • watch personal attacks on members
    i have been listening to your drivel for a while now taking it easy due to deference but no more - you are as bad as that dip shit John McCain - squeezing mileage out of the past to the detriment of the present and future - he is a senile old piece of shit that has been doing NOTHING for over 30 years in the Senate other than milk the system - he is senile and should shut the fuck up and go into a nursing home

    you on the other hand are a whining little girl crying for attention - you have no idea what "civilians" have put up with or gone through and lets face it way to many "enlisted" men are not there for their brains or courage - for many its a way to get out of a shit hole situation or keep out of jail (this is not to demean the real patriots and courageous people that enlist out of tradition or sense of obligation - but alas - the fact is that the majority is a bunch of whining low IQ dip shits

    so I suggest you change your tampon and start kissing up to your pals so that they can refer you to their therapists
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  12. thai84

    thai84 Senior Member

    I stopped reading after the first sentence

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  13. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

    They have as much right as I do to tell them to take their crazy Jesus on a stick story and fuck off.
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  14. Riptide3000

    Riptide3000 Senior Member

    1 No one has a right to impose their beliefs onto others. AND, if they truly had a brain and were not conditioned robots, they would realize you cannot impose your view for someone else to understand and embrace as you do.

    2 Businesses should hire people who fit their corporate objectives.

    3. Tough question: Cabbies want to make money, so would they refuse people? If they do refuse people, I can understand as their are many groups of people who want bad things for other people. Should a black cabbie take a carload of Klansman to a rally? Should a jewish cabbie take skinheads to the mall? Should an irish cabbie take a member of Parliament to the UN in NY?

    Religious freedom does not really have a unified meaning anymore since America has become the diarrhea capital of the world. For some, religious freedom means they have a right to murder in order to fulfill their precepts, as in eeeeslam. For some it used to mean torturing, burning, and what not, like as called for by the catholic church. Others feel marriage to minors...etc..etc.

    You know..its all fucked up!!! PEOPLE FUCKING SUCK!!!
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  15. LINK

    LINK Senior Member - vi et animo

    That's 1 helluva gray area, but good point. To my knowledge drivers are not permitted to refuse service for such reasons.

    So it should be a judgement call on the drivers discretion?
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  16. TinCanSailor

    TinCanSailor Senior Member

    It really doesn't matter why they enlisted. They're still doing more for their country then an arrogant piece of shit that does nothing more the pontificate on the politics forum of a fuck board. I've worked with hundreds of people who only enlisted to "get out of a shitty situation" - and they're some of the greatest Americans I've ever met.

    MAXIMUS Contributing Member

    It's quite refreshing to see someone talk about themselves with such candor. So when you are done pontificating maybe you can add something of substance.

    BTW I generally have no problems with veterans but by the same token find it demeaning to them as a category to see them treated like a retarded brother - they have a right to be treated equally and if some deserve to be called assholes then so be it ;)
  18. sirdosser

    sirdosser Senior Member

    You're out of your depth and ought to be gracious enough to just move on as I wouldn't expect you to concede. It always hard being the smartest guy in the room, especially when you're not. All your inane posturing on subjects of which you know nothing about simply reveals your insecurities. As @TinCanSailor noted, it doesn't matter why someone enlists, they take an oath to be part of something bigger than themselves and dedicate a part of their life, sometimes all of it, to serve this country and its citizens, which includes pontificators like you who enjoy freedom but think they're above doing the same service. I knew Marines who joined because they liked the uniform. I met one in infantry school who was a pro football player. I met one from Columbia who joined to get his American citizenship. The only Marine in my battalion at Parris Island who could run faster than me is now the Agent in Charge for President Trump's security detail. He was 17 when I met him, with no idea about what to do with his life. And I knew plenty of Marines as dumb as rocks. All are brothers to me through shared experience, sacrifice, blood and sweat. You will never understand what that means so it would best if you would just leave it alone. Your bullshit particularly dishonors those who've lost their lives in defense of country and Constitution, who despite their reasons for joining or whether or not they came from a shit hole, knew more about appreciating freedom than you can conceive.
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  19. clave665

    clave665 Senior Member, Moderator, Official Eunuch of BGFE Staff Member

    This Thread is about religious beliefs, not military service.

    Let's just thank who served - realizing that ANYONE who enters Military Service can put their life on the line - and leave it at that.
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  20. NicoleSaunders

    NicoleSaunders Social Companion Verified

    Lets see... personally, I believe everyone has the right to have whatever faith and belief system they want. I will be totally respectful towards them too...but if someone starts to pass judgement on me or expect me to live by their belief system, thats where I cross the line.

    For example, I wouldnt invite my Jewish friends over for dinner then whip a ham out of the oven. I have enough respect for them to not do something like that. Now, if they insisted I should stop eating ham based on their religious beliefs, thats crossing the line.

    If someone is incapable of doing their job due to their religious beliefs, they need to be let go, not based on religion, but based on the fact they are incompetent. Someone who knows they cannot work on the Sabbath shouldnt accept a job where they must work weekends, and then announce they will not be working on weekends due to their religion. They are either shady or stupid...both qualities that make for a horrible employee. Fire them.

    Cab drivers..well, they are independent contractors. And like most business, have the right to accept or deny any business they wish without having to explain themselves. So yeah, if they follow any religious belief that says you can only be among those of the same belief, they are going to have to make some decisions.. Quite sure making money will influence their choice..but...yes, they do have a choice and it is their right to decide who they dont want in their car.

    When it comes to criminals..I guess you can say for me, its along the same lines of respect for anothers beliefs...I'll admit, this is something Ive argued to death in the past lol but yes, I think that even in prison there should be respect for someone practicing their faith and having the resources available to them to.

    Anyway...I do have to point out..every one of the scenarios were examples of allowing someone the ability to practice their own faith, and not so much on imposing their faith on others. To me, imposing is...like now that my friend has found god, she no longer goes out at night, drinks, goes to church several times a week, all that. Okay whatever shes happy, I have no issue with that at all.

    Imposing is....if I tell her Im going through a rough moment, she tells me god will take care of me and she will pray for me. Or if something great happens she exclaims, Oh praise god! I find that incredibly disrespectful since for one, she knows that I am not at all religious...and for two, what she does in her faith has absolutely no bearing at all on my life. Now, we cant have any conversation without her bringing up religion in some way shape or form and trying to apply it to my life...or telling me she hopes one day I will find the way. That is imposing...
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