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Discussion in 'Politics' started by bgsaysftp, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. bgsaysftp

    bgsaysftp Senior Member


    Updated 1 hr 48 mins ago
    President Donald Trump is set to unveil executive actions on immigration -- one of his central campaign promises -- and could move to suspend some immigration from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen, either temporarily or "indefinitely," said sources familiar with the plans that have been under consideration.

    The sources also expect any impending Trump action could also impact refugees from countries with Muslim populations. Trump proposed a ban on all Muslim immigration on a temporary basis early on in the campaign, but has since amended his position.

    ABC News has learned that Trump is expected to visit the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday as he prepares to unveil his first executive actions on immigration, according to congressional and administration sources.

    On Tuesday night, Trump tweeted that his plans for Wednesday centered on national security and one of his main campaign vows, building a wall on the southern border.

    Trump did not provide additional details.

    Sources outside the government familiar with the Trump team proposals say they expect any presidential action will not impact young immigrants currently benefiting from former President Barack Obama's initiative known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), which provides temporary legal protection and work permits.

    The White House declined to confirm a Trump visit to DHS or comment on any planned executive actions.

    During the campaign, Trump promised swift action on immigration on "Day One" in office. He pledged to cancel all federal funding to sanctuary cities, suspend immigration countries with ties to terrorism, investigate abuses of visa programs and deport criminalundocumented immigrants.

    "On Day One, I'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal illegal immigrants from this country," Trump said at a rally in Des Moines, Iowa, in August. "I promise you, from the first day in office -- the first thing I'm going to do, the first piece of paper that I'm going to sign is we're gonna get rid of these people ... Day One."

    The Senate confirmed Gen. John Kelly, Trump's pick to head Homeland Security, on Friday.
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  2. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Once again, the Christian peoples of the Middle East are fucked if they need to get out of any of these countries.

    As usual by the United States.

    Whether it is blind support for Israel or hatred of muslims, the Christian peoples of the Middle East -- among the oldest on earth -- die because of US policies.
  3. wamulover

    wamulover Senior Member , Order of Original Thinkers

    Well, it appears that persecuted religious minorities will have their Visa's approved FWTW
  4. Greeneyedude

    Greeneyedude Senior Member

    Will Florida be one of the countries?

    ( sorry, inside joke)
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  5. wamulover

    wamulover Senior Member , Order of Original Thinkers

    I'll give you Florida and Texas if you give me California and Illinois
  6. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    Trump to block visas to anyone from

    No Trump business there.
    Unlike Egypt, Turkey, Saudi..


    Extreme vetting?

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  7. intaboro

    intaboro Contributing Member

    You're right. The US policy of not taking Isis seriously by president Obama has hurt Christian's coming to the US. Most of the refugees that came here were Muslim. Maybe if Obama killed the terrorists with the same fervor Isis killed, Christian's would be safer. Seems that Christian's would fair better if they sought safety in closer countries to their locations.
  8. clave665

    clave665 Senior Member, Moderator, Official Eunuch of BGFE Staff Member

    The (eternal) question is, though - how many US lives will be saved? I really think noone has a clue.
  9. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Don't forget that George Bush's invasion of Iraq destroyed that country's Christian population. Bush took a secular government, destroyed its relative stability for the Christian population and created the Islamic Republic of Iraq. Those of us with family roots in those lands as Christians have longer and deeper memories.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2017
  10. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

    It doesn't matter if even a few are saved. Hey, if you want to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs. There's probably enough of the bad actors here anyway from the last WH occupant who let them in. And for my last bit of 'I don't care sarcasm', I don't live near any major city centers or likely targets so my chances of being killed by some wacky camel jockey are small.

    I agree, something needs to be done. Extreme vetting or putting a hold from Countries which harbor or have known terrorists is a start. My guess is there are plenty here already and more coming across both borders. If your boat has a hole and is leaking, you don't drill more holes to let the water out, you plug the holes.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2017
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  11. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

    I thought I saw Mexico in there too. He isn't doing a while to ingratiate himself the our friends south of the border. In fact, he's pissing them off and working against himself. Bad strategy. Sad.
  12. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Save them in the womb, but let them die when they're adults.
  13. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

  14. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    It's Real Easy

    WASHINGTON ― A Republican lawmaker in Texas who proposed a bill that would criminalize abortion said the policy would force women to be “more personally responsible” for their sexual behavior.

    “Right now, it’s real easy,” State Rep. Tony Tinderholt (R) told the Texas Observer. “Right now, women don’t make it important to be personally responsible."

    fyi @NinaHartman
  15. Atl Guy

    Atl Guy Member

  16. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    He can criminalize the father then, which he may do.
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  17. Greeneyedude

    Greeneyedude Senior Member

    Another jackass who thinks women use abortion for birth control

    He should spend an afternoon at his local planned parenthood and get a dose of reality
  18. Johnxxx69

    Johnxxx69 Senior Member

  19. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    The US turned down multiple opportunities to help Jews fleeing Nazi Germany in the run-up to the Holocaust.

    In one case, it refused to allow a ship carrying 900 German Jews to dock on American shores.

    The ship eventually turned back and returned to Europe, where over 250 of its passengers were ultimately killed.

  20. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    A double whammy.

    On Holocaust Remembrance Day, while forgetting to mention Jewish people or anti-Semitism.....

    The WH does its ban

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