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Trump's Tweets

Discussion in 'Politics' started by njlefty, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    This needs it's own thread.

    Why pick a secretary of state when you can spend your night retweeting teenagers?

    After passing time on Sunday baselessly claiming that "millions" of people voted illegally in the presidential election, Donald Trump, 70, posted two tweets earlier Monday — one about Cuba and another regarding his meeting with retired four-star general David Petraeus.

    Once night fell, Trump revisited the topic of unproven voter fraud, but this time brought CNN into the mix, retweeting followers who accused the network's senior Washington correspondent, Jeff Zeleny, of being a "wannabe journalist."

    Despite never offering any proof of voter fraud himself, Trump retweeted @Filibuster, a self-described 16-year-old Oakland Raiders fan who called Zeleny "pathetic" with "no sufficient evidence that Donald Trump did not suffer from voter fraud, shame! Bad reporter!"
  2. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

  3. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

  4. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    As our future 70 year old President, I would advise Trump to be very careful about re-sending the content of 16 year olds. Things can snowball the wrong way.

  5. sirdosser

    sirdosser Senior Member

    He's our man. Setting US policy, 140 characters at a time.
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  6. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    From Anand Giridharadas @anandwrites:

    Now take a second and think about this, everyone. No reset. No normalization. Just hard thinking about the groundwork being laid: (see photo of Trump tweet).


    Under the law (8 USC 1481), natural-born citizenship is very hard to revoke: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1481 . There are seven grounds for loss of citizenship under that section of the law. This comes closest, but not very close at all: (see attached photo).


    So either Trump is saying that a speech-act protected by the Supreme Court as a constitutional right is treason... http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2015/06/inside-the-supreme-courts-flag-burning-decision/

    Or he is saying that constitutionally protected activity, though not a crime, will be punishable through stripping of citizenship under him.

    This is how it happens.

    Let us take this seriously, because it may be something new: the explicit articulation that doing legal things could cost you citizenship. Some history of denaturalization. Spoiler alert: these countries weren't headed in good directions. (See attached photos)


    What may happen now is that people focus on the flag-burning part. That is a mistake. Focus on the stripping-citizenship part.

    Do not take comfort that institutions, in this case the Supreme Court, can save us. (See @mashagessen's Rule #3 for surviving autocracy.)

    A single SCOTUS vote protects many fundamental rights. We are ever one terrorist attack involving a burnt flag away from capitulation. Trump might say, "This horrible attack was committed by a terrorist with no respect for our flag; I need the law changed to honor victims."

    At first, the change might seem small, focused, technical, swallowable. But groundwork is being laid. To not grasp that is dangerous. What he suggested today is so important, because it connects to his birther past. He feels entitled to question and strip citizenship.

    I already see pundits rushing to analyze this on the level of tactics. It doesn't matter if it's a tactic. It's also how autocracy starts. If I wanted to be your autocrat, a system bug I'd exploit is many of your pundits having tactical, rather than moral and historical, minds.

    If theory is, "Don't worry, this is candy for base before a Romney pick," hold up: when did stripping citizenship become base placation?

    If you are in the media standing guard over America's institutions and liberties, let me propose a version of Pascal's Wager...

    It is prudent to expect autocracy because if you're wrong the losses are finite, but if you're right you can help fend off infinite losses.
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  7. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Nuclear weapons at his disposal next year will makes things in the middle of the night interesting.

    I'm okay with that.

    If we all go at the same time, I won't miss anything.
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  8. tryan125a

    tryan125a Retired

    bachelor-island-apprentice-dancer nation picked a winner this time......
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  9. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    We picked a Juvenile Tweeter when we could have picked an Adult.

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  10. green2

    green2 Member

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  11. green2

    green2 Member

    His tweets show his petty nature....clearly this man suffers from a personality disorder. Donald will wear out his welcome with all but his most hardcore supporters. This election was the final last stand of the old guard, good ole white boys club. Now that's something to celebrate.
  12. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    This tweeting is strange. Give it a rest. There is a sweaty palm aspect to the future.

  13. Kdrralph

    Kdrralph New Member

    Could you cook a Trump steak over the flame from a burning flag? I like my steaks red on the inside with a charred crust tasting of liberty.
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  14. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    It is not easy to give up drinking and give up smoking.

    I've done both.

    If he needs help to de-Tweet, I am here for him.
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2016
  15. Earl_the_Pearl

    Earl_the_Pearl Senior Member

    Wrong again, first BREXIT now Trump, you people better get use to the old ways.
  16. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    We're getting our music back, too, Earl.

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  17. wamulover

    wamulover Senior Member , Order of Original Thinkers

    Wait! Are you Vance Johnson?!

    This election was about the fact that the deplorable, closet-racist, elitist, freedom-hating left took mid-west voters for granted. Whoops.
  18. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

  19. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump

    I will be going to Indiana on Thursday to make a major announcement concerning Carrier A.C. staying in Indianapolis. Great deal for workers!
  20. njlefty

    njlefty Senior Member +My Reviews

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